What are black holes?

[LJF]

Here is another wierd theroy.
I think that black holes are matter that has collected to form an extremely dense core. I than believe that after so much of the matter has colected that i tuns into anti matter. THis draws even more matter in, but unlike earlier the new matter doesn't add onto the mass of the black hole but it is transfered to another dimension.

Anothe rtheorie i have is that a black hole is formed when a tiny speck of anti matter hits a star or other large source of matter, creating a giant whirling destructive force of anti matter.

I also believe that black hole are the only way that energy and matter can be destroyed. Since the universe is all about blance, and the stars create new matter and energy(this is theroy i believe in too, more about this later), and if black holes are anything, they're the opposite of stars, therefore to blance it out, the black holes are the only think we know of that could potentialy destroy matter and energy.

What are your views guys(and gals)?:confused: :confused:

[Adrianf]

Interesting theory. Move over Einstein.

Adrian

[Radar]

Here is another wierd theroy.
I think that black holes are matter that has collected to form an extremely dense core. I than believe that after so much of the matter has colected that i tuns into anti matter. THis draws even more matter in, but unlike earlier the new matter doesn't add onto the mass of the black hole but it is transfered to another dimension.

Anothe rtheorie i have is that a black hole is formed when a tiny speck of anti matter hits a star or other large source of matter, creating a giant whirling destructive force of anti matter.

I also believe that black hole are the only way that energy and matter can be destroyed. Since the universe is all about blance, and the stars create new matter and energy(this is theroy i believe in too, more about this later), and if black holes are anything, they're the opposite of stars, therefore to blance it out, the black holes are the only think we know of that could potentialy destroy matter and energy.

What are your views guys(and gals)?:confused: :confused:

My views on black holes are this - For a start the term black hole is confusing, it's not really a hole, it's a sphere, in fact its a star; a star that has accumulated so much mass (the more mass something has the more gravity), that it's gravity becomes so strong that light can no longer be emitted from it's surface. So really to me, a black hole is a super massive dark star. I'm happy with the current laws of physics in this area, because at the moment they make sense to me. I don't know enough about anti matter to comment. Are there any resources or references that can shed more light on anti matter / black holes?

Cheers

Ray

[gyro]

Use any decent search engine for: Black Holes+Antimatter......the theories abound !!

[LJF]

Yea. do what gyro said. Thats how i found out about it.

[gyro]

Yea. do what gyro said. Thats how i found out about it.

So your post was not based on an original thought (to you).

We can bandy around with Web-sites forever infinitum and you will learn little.

Take Daves advice and start reading and developing a knowledge base.

[LJF]

Well it is mostly my idea. I found a lot of stuff about black holes and antimatter i didn't come up with it i put it together to get an actual theroy that can be tested not random information.

It wasn't just websites i used to get my info i also read a lot of books about haw stars work and the affects of antimatter.

[Radar]

That's the best way mate. Gather information from all kinds of sources and then assemble it together and see if it holds up to the rigours of the scientific community. I think coming up with theories is good exercise for the brain, and beleive me, I need the exercise :biggrin:

Ray

[LJF]

Wa Ha Ha Ha!!!

ive brought back a dead forum

its the frankenstein fourms

seriously though, listen to this crackpot theroy i found

all black holes are the realms of evil, good cannot exist in them, only the evil can see them

now im not critizing but... COME ON!!!!!

[gyro]

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[Tony Leece]

Whoooohh!!! surreal or what .....
I find it difficult enough to understand the accepted blackhole theory, but anti-stars and absolute realms of evil are a bit much:confused:
Gonna have a lie down:wink:
All the best guys......
Tony............

[A.S.I.G.N_Baz]

I actually think black holes are a very simple mechanism.

A stars energetic reactions create pressure that is forever trying to push out.

The stars own mass (weight) provides gravity that is forever trying to pull it in.

Somewhere in between, a balance is struck and the star maintains its size and shape for a time of relative stability.

At some point, when the star runs out of fuel and depending on its mass and composition, it can do a couple of things...

Reach critical mass and go supernova, exploding with great force.
Run out of fuel and burn out.
If the star has enough mass and there is not enough energy production to maintain pressure, the star will naturally collapse in on itself...and kepps collapsing. This has the effect of crushing all the material onto a single point. That is- something with great mass, but almost no size.

This black hole has no more influence on it's surroundings than it did when it was a star, as it still has the same gravitational forces due to its mass.

These were once seen (in the 80's) as an all consuming monster. Not so- the only way these things get any bigger and more powerful, is if something else comes close enough to get captured and pulled in, therefore adding to it's mass.

If we didn't have super massive black holes in the centre of our galaxies, I reckon the spinning mass of stars would all fly out into space, like swing a bucket of water around your head, then suddenly letting go.

[gyro]

Is a 'Black Hole', by definition, impossible to locate outside of a home galaxy ?

[Tenacious Del]

Is a 'Black Hole', by definition, impossible to locate outside of a home galaxy ?

wouldn't gravitational lensing would allow the detection of a black hole from outside of our galaxy?

[gyro]

I am not sure. If we can't see the object causing the lensing, how would we know it had taken place. In theory I suppose it can happen if we observed a 'Einstein Ring' with nothing in the middle. I have not heard of such and still not sure a Black Hole, in empty space, can be detected.

[Radar]

I think if we were looking at a point of light over a period of time, and then all of a sudden, that light started to warp and bend, then peak, then warp bend, and then back to normal, a black hole could explain that behaviour perfectly.

Also black holes give off jets of radiation, so being able to detect them would also be a way to determine their presence.

Ray

[gyro]

I think if we were looking at a point of light over a period of time, and then all of a sudden, that light started to warp and bend, then peak, then warp bend, and then back to normal, a black hole could explain that behaviour perfectly.

Also black holes give off jets of radiation, so being able to detect them would also be a way to determine their presence.

Ray

Are these jets directional like Pulsars.
Also, if the Black Hole is in empty space there would be no matter to 'fall in' to cause any radiation.

[Deeplord]

Mmmmmmm, black holes. They are the purifiers of the universe. They pull everything in, rips it apart, stretches it, crushes it almost at the speed of light,it then spews it back into the universe. I have found quite few documentaries on black holes from youtube. Love them. They are basically gravity gone mad. I found this little video from youtube. It's a good demonstration of a black hole. It looks like a big plug hole at Ladybower Dam. As I watched it I was thinking "I would hate to be swimming near that thing, I'd have no hope of surviving it" it's quite terrifying when you think about it,and that's just the gravity from Earth at work, imagine swimming around a super massive black hole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vciA9-01M88&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_8R03jIZI&feature=related

[LJF]

ah, its good to be back, so which one of you poeple's posts should i start on

[Loxlee]

Ie. imagine you're in an airplane flying at high altitude, the air inside the airplane is the dark matter and the air outside the airplane dark energy the ppl representing solar systems and they each hold up a light lighter representing stars... Now imagine each window is a potential black hole and one blows open........ you fill in the rest.

[A.S.I.G.N_Baz]

Ie. imagine you're in an airplane flying at high altitude, the air inside the airplane is the dark matter and the air outside the airplane dark energy the ppl representing solar systems and they each hold up a light lighter representing stars... Now imagine each window is a potential black hole and one blows open........ you fill in the rest.
:smiley-laughing001:

[Loxlee]

Good afternoon everyone
Based on all the facts and laws of the universe at the NAUAR we have determined that a black hole must be a phenomenon rendered by the elements within it's immediate proximity... (Not an object of inconceivable, invisible, infinately compressed material element.)

[Loxlee]

contributing recycling effect,,, source of energy e-mc2... 454\2 / 8,000,000 = 0.0001 , that is what fuels the vortex in a galaxy.

[stevebucknor1]

I think that black holes are matter that has collected to form an extremely dense core. I than believe that after so much of the matter has collected that I tuns into anti matter. This draws even more matter in, but unlike earlier the new matter doesn't add onto the mass of the black hole but it is transferred to another dimes.